In portraying men as utterly captivating in their beauty and sexual prowess to the exclusion of professional power, this new shift in the culture is justifying the economic emasculation of men.
Feminist cope. Women put off their fertile years to compete with men. By the time they reach any sort of success, their fertility window is waning if not closed, and they have effectively turned themselves into men. Which men with options are not attracted to. So naturally there's a big market selling fantasy to women who bought into the whole thing, who want to think that they really are super hot in their 40's and 50's.
I've often questioned why supposed liberation for women has meant women taking on traits, usually, more dominant in men. Women acting as typical women is still devalued, maybe, by women more than anyone.
And likely the reason so many women are unhappy these days comparted to 50 years ago. Several studies have been done on that (e.g. Wolfers and Stevens). Flourishing cultures seek to enhance, sublimate, and glorify what is natural, not fight against it or try to erase it.
A documented Nicole Kidman allergy has protected me from many of the early versions of these films. It also saved me from trying to read emotions into a face so "magically" free from aging that it's completely inexpressive.
True enough -- 20 years ago she was playing the part of the older woman scheming with younger men as satire in "To Die For." Now she is dead serious :-)
I find her a very good actress, but every few years she does these near pornographic movies. Is it for ego? Is it so directors and casting agents don't see her as getting older so they will hire her? She does a lot of producing mostly well done shows that she often acts in to some degree, so I don't get her pandering to a certain gaze that objectifies people. Maybe, she's just another Hollywood person who wants attention anyway they can get it.
How many older women look like Nicole Kidman and Anne Hathaway? Also, how many older women WANT men who are significantly younger than them?
As an old woman (not just older, I'm 64) I would be creeped out by a man under 50 who found me attractive. I'd assume he had some sick granny fetish.
When I was in my 40's the "Cougar" crap was popular. All that got me was little boys in their 20's thinking they could get lucky by hitting on a middle aged woman. Um - no. I would just pin their names to their shirts and send them on their way.
Emotionally mature older women want a man who loves them, is devoted to them, and has something in common with them. Not some silly little boy toy who feeds their delusion that they're just as hot as women under 40. No. We simply are NOT. Older women may be just as lovable as younger women, but we're only sexy to the men who love us. And that's okay.
It's depends on which type of feminism you're talking about. Equality of opportunity feminism which concedes that individuals are free to make their own choices is fine. The equality of outcome equity variant of feminism is most definitely communism in a dress.
Generally, the aim should be to eliminate all discrimination on the basis of anything other than ability. Post hoc attempts to jury rig group-based equality of outcomes, regardless of differences in heterodox differences by group and preference, is simply a different means of achieving communism. Seizing the means of distributing opportunity is tantamount to seizing the means of production by proxy. It produces exactly the same apparatchik class, albeit often at arms-length from the government which mandates the practices.
There are morally good ways to increase equality of outcome. Fix the pipeline. The problem is that liberals won't try the solutions that work. All the evidence points to the fact that in order to equalise outcomes schools need to adopt high expectations, high discipline cultures. Yes, money can help, but only in the marginal, extreme and anecdotally rare instances when it's a factor. Most of the investments which work are modest and specifically targeted. By far the best investment is investment in classroom practice for newer teachers, as well as (admittedly flawed) systems like Offsted which eliminate grossly inadequate teachers if they don't improve.
Don't believe me? Ask an AI how the UK managed to narrow racial educational attainment gaps under exam conditions.
Nice post, Batya! I share your skepticism. Strong women, eh? 🤔 Just out of curiosity, I’m wondering how many of these strong women attended the White House Correspondents Dinner? Must have been quite a few, since the progressives dominate the media and there are lots of women in that crew. While I haven’t seen all the footage, one thing that’s missing is an example of one of these “strong” women protecting anyone (adoring man or otherwise) from the danger of the gunfire. I suspect we will never see such an example. On the other hand, there are numerous examples of adoring men protecting women from the danger of gunfire by shielding the women with their bodies. The NYT just can’t stop spewing the verbal vomit 🤮
From the male perspective, this can be a rather attractive proposition, too. When I first got out of the service and started college, I probably spent close to 3 hours every day in the weight rooms of my university. My lean and hungry years. There was a school administrator who worked out about the same times that I did and she was simply smoking hot. Tall, v. athletic, long natural hair streaking gray, smart, never married, and forward. But it was too awkward to go public. She ended up marrying the swim coach and I had to admit, they made a great pair. She was 20 years my senior, but oh, my.
Yeah I'd dispute that no man ever wants to be desired. Men don't always want to have to be the Christian Grey billionaire treating some girl. Men also, sometimes, like the idea that someone wants them for them.
I did marry a woman older than me - though the age gap is more within the realm of the socially acceptable. (She never looked or behaved like her chronological age, and I assumed she was my age or very close to it until she confessed. We’ve both aged well since.) At the time we met, I was an aspiring scientist looking for his first faculty position, and she already had a varied career as a classical musician and educator. It hasn’t always been perfect (that’s real life, not romance novel) but 30+ years and an adult daughter later, we’re still quite happy together.
I think a powerful older woman in a younger millennial man’s life is dream for him. He goes straight from mommy to the mommy-figure. He can still play his video games, still not be responsible for anything. Of course I am not speaking for every millennial man- but there are so many that are incapable, irresponsible, naive, etc etc. I can’t even imagine having a world war with a draft now. It would be ridiculous to see the ineptness for survival.
A terrific article I loved every minute of Batya! So the answer to women being treated like sex objects in the past, is to treat men like sexual objects now? Because that makes all the sense in the world! The answer to misogyny isn’t misandry, it is equality and to treat women AND men as human beings. Sacagawea, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Harriet Tubman, Ida B. Wells, Sojourner Truth, Pauli Murray, Mary Church Terrell, Amelia Earhart, Abigail Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt, Ada Lovelace, Beulah Henry, Martha Gellhorn, Andree de Jogh, Josephine Baker, Joan of Arc, Princess Diana, and other great women from history would be horrified if they were alive today and picked up the New York Times. This is NOT how they would want their daughters to be thinking nor why any of them fought and sacrificed in their lifetime for. They fought for or exemplified, gender equality NOT a repressive matriarchy where women rule over men. Here’s the thing guys, objectification is wrong no matter who it’s done to because your turning a human into an object.
It was wrong when done to women because it was being done to a PERSON, not Neely because it was being done to a woman. Let’s treat women AND men as the four-dimensional complex individuals they are! Let’s also show that beauty is extremely powerful in both sexes and rivals money and power in our movies and television shows. How about men and women both throwing it all away to chase someone who has hypnotized them mutually? How about showing the messiness of power and sexuality in all its glory, in both directions? Also, can we please stop acting like women are inherently good and men are inherently bad? That’s just absolute nonsense, as history can tell you. The Countess Elizabeth Bathory, Brenda Spencer, Alieen Wuornos, Queen Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Empress Wu Zeitan of China, “Bloody Mary” Queen Mary I of England, Fredegund of Soissons, Olga of Keiv, Isabella I of Castile, Catherine de’Medici, Empress Julia Agrippina, Irene of Athens, and Delphine LaLaurie are all good examples of this fact. We can also find many, many good men in history like Fred Rogers, Walt Disney, Jim Henson, Theodor Geisel, Saint Nicholas of Myra, Saint Patrick, Jesus of Nazareth, Moses, King David, Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, Johnny Appleseed, Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Dr. Jonas Salk, Cyrus the Great, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Roger Williams, Raoul Wallenberg, Witold Pilecki, John Rabe, Cincinnatus, and Vasili Arkhipov are just a FEW examples of men who who did great things and made the world a better place just by being in it.
Have the Macrons commented? There's no way she could have known he was the future President when he was 15. And how about Mohammed? You could do both of the age gap scenarios in a movie about him.
I find I like very little new television shows or movies or even most”documentaries” these days (actually for a while) because they always have some retarded message, ideological bend, or just not based on the most likely, most common, on the ground reality.
I actually really enjoyed Ted Lasso and was excited to see it’s coming back UNTIL I saw that it will not be an all girls soccer team. My immediate reaction was great they’re going to ruin it now. I don’t have faith it will keep its same type of humor. It was a very popular show and probably had many fans wanting a return but my cynical view is this “return” is purposely being done to ruin its former popularity, it’ll get canceled, then never return because it wasn’t popular. My cynical conspiracy of thought when it comes to media these days. I really hope I’m wrong!
Feminist cope. Women put off their fertile years to compete with men. By the time they reach any sort of success, their fertility window is waning if not closed, and they have effectively turned themselves into men. Which men with options are not attracted to. So naturally there's a big market selling fantasy to women who bought into the whole thing, who want to think that they really are super hot in their 40's and 50's.
I've often questioned why supposed liberation for women has meant women taking on traits, usually, more dominant in men. Women acting as typical women is still devalued, maybe, by women more than anyone.
And likely the reason so many women are unhappy these days comparted to 50 years ago. Several studies have been done on that (e.g. Wolfers and Stevens). Flourishing cultures seek to enhance, sublimate, and glorify what is natural, not fight against it or try to erase it.
A documented Nicole Kidman allergy has protected me from many of the early versions of these films. It also saved me from trying to read emotions into a face so "magically" free from aging that it's completely inexpressive.
She was good in ‘To Die For’.
True enough -- 20 years ago she was playing the part of the older woman scheming with younger men as satire in "To Die For." Now she is dead serious :-)
“To Die For” was from 1995. Time flies.
You are correct lol! whew.
I find her a very good actress, but every few years she does these near pornographic movies. Is it for ego? Is it so directors and casting agents don't see her as getting older so they will hire her? She does a lot of producing mostly well done shows that she often acts in to some degree, so I don't get her pandering to a certain gaze that objectifies people. Maybe, she's just another Hollywood person who wants attention anyway they can get it.
She ditched her age-appropriate super-successful husband for a younger guy, IIRC.
How many older women look like Nicole Kidman and Anne Hathaway? Also, how many older women WANT men who are significantly younger than them?
As an old woman (not just older, I'm 64) I would be creeped out by a man under 50 who found me attractive. I'd assume he had some sick granny fetish.
When I was in my 40's the "Cougar" crap was popular. All that got me was little boys in their 20's thinking they could get lucky by hitting on a middle aged woman. Um - no. I would just pin their names to their shirts and send them on their way.
Emotionally mature older women want a man who loves them, is devoted to them, and has something in common with them. Not some silly little boy toy who feeds their delusion that they're just as hot as women under 40. No. We simply are NOT. Older women may be just as lovable as younger women, but we're only sexy to the men who love us. And that's okay.
You do realize women have sexual desire, right?
The so-called "Women's Movement" sure made a lot of narcissist women.
Feminism was always communism in a dress.
Feminism was always communism in a dress.
He’s kind of correct.
Marx was a transvestite, you know.
It's depends on which type of feminism you're talking about. Equality of opportunity feminism which concedes that individuals are free to make their own choices is fine. The equality of outcome equity variant of feminism is most definitely communism in a dress.
Generally, the aim should be to eliminate all discrimination on the basis of anything other than ability. Post hoc attempts to jury rig group-based equality of outcomes, regardless of differences in heterodox differences by group and preference, is simply a different means of achieving communism. Seizing the means of distributing opportunity is tantamount to seizing the means of production by proxy. It produces exactly the same apparatchik class, albeit often at arms-length from the government which mandates the practices.
There are morally good ways to increase equality of outcome. Fix the pipeline. The problem is that liberals won't try the solutions that work. All the evidence points to the fact that in order to equalise outcomes schools need to adopt high expectations, high discipline cultures. Yes, money can help, but only in the marginal, extreme and anecdotally rare instances when it's a factor. Most of the investments which work are modest and specifically targeted. By far the best investment is investment in classroom practice for newer teachers, as well as (admittedly flawed) systems like Offsted which eliminate grossly inadequate teachers if they don't improve.
Don't believe me? Ask an AI how the UK managed to narrow racial educational attainment gaps under exam conditions.
All feminism is the same, it's always been a female supremacy movement.
This trend feels like a result of increased feminist control of Hollywood: middle-aged women greenlighting their sexual fantasies.
Nice post, Batya! I share your skepticism. Strong women, eh? 🤔 Just out of curiosity, I’m wondering how many of these strong women attended the White House Correspondents Dinner? Must have been quite a few, since the progressives dominate the media and there are lots of women in that crew. While I haven’t seen all the footage, one thing that’s missing is an example of one of these “strong” women protecting anyone (adoring man or otherwise) from the danger of the gunfire. I suspect we will never see such an example. On the other hand, there are numerous examples of adoring men protecting women from the danger of gunfire by shielding the women with their bodies. The NYT just can’t stop spewing the verbal vomit 🤮
We learned everything we need to know about this phenomenon from Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore.
From the male perspective, this can be a rather attractive proposition, too. When I first got out of the service and started college, I probably spent close to 3 hours every day in the weight rooms of my university. My lean and hungry years. There was a school administrator who worked out about the same times that I did and she was simply smoking hot. Tall, v. athletic, long natural hair streaking gray, smart, never married, and forward. But it was too awkward to go public. She ended up marrying the swim coach and I had to admit, they made a great pair. She was 20 years my senior, but oh, my.
Yeah I'd dispute that no man ever wants to be desired. Men don't always want to have to be the Christian Grey billionaire treating some girl. Men also, sometimes, like the idea that someone wants them for them.
I did marry a woman older than me - though the age gap is more within the realm of the socially acceptable. (She never looked or behaved like her chronological age, and I assumed she was my age or very close to it until she confessed. We’ve both aged well since.) At the time we met, I was an aspiring scientist looking for his first faculty position, and she already had a varied career as a classical musician and educator. It hasn’t always been perfect (that’s real life, not romance novel) but 30+ years and an adult daughter later, we’re still quite happy together.
I think a powerful older woman in a younger millennial man’s life is dream for him. He goes straight from mommy to the mommy-figure. He can still play his video games, still not be responsible for anything. Of course I am not speaking for every millennial man- but there are so many that are incapable, irresponsible, naive, etc etc. I can’t even imagine having a world war with a draft now. It would be ridiculous to see the ineptness for survival.
You've got a whole generation of slackers looking for women to support them. Screw these losers. Eventually, the women realize they've been used.
A terrific article I loved every minute of Batya! So the answer to women being treated like sex objects in the past, is to treat men like sexual objects now? Because that makes all the sense in the world! The answer to misogyny isn’t misandry, it is equality and to treat women AND men as human beings. Sacagawea, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Harriet Tubman, Ida B. Wells, Sojourner Truth, Pauli Murray, Mary Church Terrell, Amelia Earhart, Abigail Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt, Ada Lovelace, Beulah Henry, Martha Gellhorn, Andree de Jogh, Josephine Baker, Joan of Arc, Princess Diana, and other great women from history would be horrified if they were alive today and picked up the New York Times. This is NOT how they would want their daughters to be thinking nor why any of them fought and sacrificed in their lifetime for. They fought for or exemplified, gender equality NOT a repressive matriarchy where women rule over men. Here’s the thing guys, objectification is wrong no matter who it’s done to because your turning a human into an object.
It was wrong when done to women because it was being done to a PERSON, not Neely because it was being done to a woman. Let’s treat women AND men as the four-dimensional complex individuals they are! Let’s also show that beauty is extremely powerful in both sexes and rivals money and power in our movies and television shows. How about men and women both throwing it all away to chase someone who has hypnotized them mutually? How about showing the messiness of power and sexuality in all its glory, in both directions? Also, can we please stop acting like women are inherently good and men are inherently bad? That’s just absolute nonsense, as history can tell you. The Countess Elizabeth Bathory, Brenda Spencer, Alieen Wuornos, Queen Ranavalona I of Madagascar, Empress Wu Zeitan of China, “Bloody Mary” Queen Mary I of England, Fredegund of Soissons, Olga of Keiv, Isabella I of Castile, Catherine de’Medici, Empress Julia Agrippina, Irene of Athens, and Delphine LaLaurie are all good examples of this fact. We can also find many, many good men in history like Fred Rogers, Walt Disney, Jim Henson, Theodor Geisel, Saint Nicholas of Myra, Saint Patrick, Jesus of Nazareth, Moses, King David, Davy Crockett, Daniel Boone, Johnny Appleseed, Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Dr. Jonas Salk, Cyrus the Great, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Roger Williams, Raoul Wallenberg, Witold Pilecki, John Rabe, Cincinnatus, and Vasili Arkhipov are just a FEW examples of men who who did great things and made the world a better place just by being in it.
Have the Macrons commented? There's no way she could have known he was the future President when he was 15. And how about Mohammed? You could do both of the age gap scenarios in a movie about him.
Story brings the President of France to mind.
And powerful women have always had their toy boys. That is as old as civilization.
Beat me to it while I was typing the part about Mohammed. .
Yes, I’m sure that Anna Nicole married because she found J. Howard Marshall’s power “sexually attractive.”
These movies are just pimping off the continued feminist lie that “you can have it all at no cost.”
I find I like very little new television shows or movies or even most”documentaries” these days (actually for a while) because they always have some retarded message, ideological bend, or just not based on the most likely, most common, on the ground reality.
I actually really enjoyed Ted Lasso and was excited to see it’s coming back UNTIL I saw that it will not be an all girls soccer team. My immediate reaction was great they’re going to ruin it now. I don’t have faith it will keep its same type of humor. It was a very popular show and probably had many fans wanting a return but my cynical view is this “return” is purposely being done to ruin its former popularity, it’ll get canceled, then never return because it wasn’t popular. My cynical conspiracy of thought when it comes to media these days. I really hope I’m wrong!