The Pope knew exactly what he was doing. I’m not sure why he decided to take on Trump, because only a comatose person would think that Donald Trump wouldn’t come right back at him in the way only Trump does.
And this is the thing about Trump - he’s not going to back down because the Pope takes a backhanded swipe at him. He’s not going to back down because of polls. He’s not going to keep his mouth shut in hopes of keeping the Catholic vote. He doesn’t care what his critics say or think or do. Like it or not, he is LEADING, not campaigning, not pandering, and not straddling.
Thank you Batya. Why the Pope is completely silent about the electoral fraud going on in Perú? After all, he sees himself more of a Peruvian than American.
Saying the pope is woke reveals someone so narrow minded they can only think in one category. The pope is an absolute monarch, and the Catholics in the trump admin are his subjects. If the trump admin thinks the war in Iran is justified, so be it. Justify it in terms of US policy or whatever. What they can’t do is make any authoritative claim regarding the Catholic Church’s position on the matter. JD Vance is just some guy from Ohio (or wherever it is in that area his from), he has absolutely no authority to present his opinion as the Church’s official position. You can argue forever about the nuances of just war theory, blah, blah blah, but the pope is the supreme legislator, executor and judge when it comes to Catholic teaching. There is no appeal against the pope. You disagree with the pope, and you cannot accept his spiritual authority. It happens to people across the political spectrum, but the whole “the pope is woke” is just silly. The pope isn’t being woke, he is exercising his authority as the absolute monarch he is. It is just stupid for these people in the trump admin to think they can argue with the pope on matters of Catholic teaching. It is important that the pope sets the record straight so that people understand that JD Vance et al. have absolutely zero authority in the Catholic Church, an institution that is much older the the US government and one that will outlast it.
I disagree strongly with the Pope's message. However, I have an open mind and may reconsider when the Pope welcomes about 1000 Iranian mullahs into to live at the Vatican. After all, we can't choose our brothers and sisters--or just brothers in this case.
I'm still waiting for the Pope to denounce the slaughter of christians on Palm Sunday by Islamists. Instead he went and visited Algeria. What does it say about the leader of a people who cares more about embracing those sworn to murder his flock than his own flock...If, in his head he thinks this is going to change Islamists he has not read the room...oh and of course, he has brought back good old fashioned Catholic Jew-hatred...but then again since woke is his religion I guess you would expect nothing less
In my case, you're preaching to the converted. Unilateral peace behavior in the presence of evil pretty much guarantees Evil wins. Not fighting evil when you have the means to do so is a mental illness. For a pope to come out with these positions proves there is something deeply wrong in the Catholic church that they groom an army of clergy into that kind of self-sustaining group think. So, of course, when a pope is elected, he comes from that group of robots.
Theology is not my strong discipline but I do know Catholic just war doctrine as established by St. Augustine and elaborated by St. Thomas Aquinas. In his initial statement, the Pope seemed oblivious, condemning all wars without distinction a la Yoko Ono. Some other Catholic figures later argued just war theory in defense of the Pope while others argued the other side. This is appropriate activity for Catholics. I am sure his visit from Axelrod right before his statement was just a coincidence.
Oh please, I am a Catholic theologian and canon lawyer. Unlike Vance and the author of this article, I have all my degrees (up to a Ph.D. and a pontifical degree in Catholic theology and law). No need for me to read unreal articles like the one here….lol. I can guarantee that the author of this article has no sense whatsoever of Catholic teaching. All she can do is plug everything into her own little categories, which are few. War is always bad, the Catholic Church concedes some wars are justified even if war always mean there has been a profound failure somewhere. It is pretty comical watching JD Vance stupid himself. The Catholic Church is never going to bend to him or trump, and neither understand it. trump’s name won’t even be a memory, and the Catholic Church will still be going strong…
The Catholic Church has participated in many wars, inquisitions and colonial actions over its history. It has forgiven warriors of their action's consequences. The Church combined with Kings (real ones) to further their political and theological agendas. AI estimates 0ver the history on religious wars that over 20 million were killed (not adjusted for the increase in global population), The old and the New Testament can be searched in AI in regards to the Bibles view on war. Here is an excerpt:
The Bible doesn’t give a single rule like “war is always right” or “war is always wrong.” Instead:
It records wars, sometimes as justified in context.
It points toward peace as the ultimate ideal.
It teaches individuals to pursue nonviolence, especially in the New Testament.
Catholic here. I like the Pope, and I like Trump, but I only voted for one of them.
The Pope knew exactly what he was doing. I’m not sure why he decided to take on Trump, because only a comatose person would think that Donald Trump wouldn’t come right back at him in the way only Trump does.
And this is the thing about Trump - he’s not going to back down because the Pope takes a backhanded swipe at him. He’s not going to back down because of polls. He’s not going to keep his mouth shut in hopes of keeping the Catholic vote. He doesn’t care what his critics say or think or do. Like it or not, he is LEADING, not campaigning, not pandering, and not straddling.
Thank you Batya. Why the Pope is completely silent about the electoral fraud going on in Perú? After all, he sees himself more of a Peruvian than American.
Thank you Batya. We are only having another leftist activist with a selective memory God bless his salvation!
Saying the pope is woke reveals someone so narrow minded they can only think in one category. The pope is an absolute monarch, and the Catholics in the trump admin are his subjects. If the trump admin thinks the war in Iran is justified, so be it. Justify it in terms of US policy or whatever. What they can’t do is make any authoritative claim regarding the Catholic Church’s position on the matter. JD Vance is just some guy from Ohio (or wherever it is in that area his from), he has absolutely no authority to present his opinion as the Church’s official position. You can argue forever about the nuances of just war theory, blah, blah blah, but the pope is the supreme legislator, executor and judge when it comes to Catholic teaching. There is no appeal against the pope. You disagree with the pope, and you cannot accept his spiritual authority. It happens to people across the political spectrum, but the whole “the pope is woke” is just silly. The pope isn’t being woke, he is exercising his authority as the absolute monarch he is. It is just stupid for these people in the trump admin to think they can argue with the pope on matters of Catholic teaching. It is important that the pope sets the record straight so that people understand that JD Vance et al. have absolutely zero authority in the Catholic Church, an institution that is much older the the US government and one that will outlast it.
I disagree strongly with the Pope's message. However, I have an open mind and may reconsider when the Pope welcomes about 1000 Iranian mullahs into to live at the Vatican. After all, we can't choose our brothers and sisters--or just brothers in this case.
I'm still waiting for the Pope to denounce the slaughter of christians on Palm Sunday by Islamists. Instead he went and visited Algeria. What does it say about the leader of a people who cares more about embracing those sworn to murder his flock than his own flock...If, in his head he thinks this is going to change Islamists he has not read the room...oh and of course, he has brought back good old fashioned Catholic Jew-hatred...but then again since woke is his religion I guess you would expect nothing less
In my case, you're preaching to the converted. Unilateral peace behavior in the presence of evil pretty much guarantees Evil wins. Not fighting evil when you have the means to do so is a mental illness. For a pope to come out with these positions proves there is something deeply wrong in the Catholic church that they groom an army of clergy into that kind of self-sustaining group think. So, of course, when a pope is elected, he comes from that group of robots.
Theology is not my strong discipline but I do know Catholic just war doctrine as established by St. Augustine and elaborated by St. Thomas Aquinas. In his initial statement, the Pope seemed oblivious, condemning all wars without distinction a la Yoko Ono. Some other Catholic figures later argued just war theory in defense of the Pope while others argued the other side. This is appropriate activity for Catholics. I am sure his visit from Axelrod right before his statement was just a coincidence.
Oh please, I am a Catholic theologian and canon lawyer. Unlike Vance and the author of this article, I have all my degrees (up to a Ph.D. and a pontifical degree in Catholic theology and law). No need for me to read unreal articles like the one here….lol. I can guarantee that the author of this article has no sense whatsoever of Catholic teaching. All she can do is plug everything into her own little categories, which are few. War is always bad, the Catholic Church concedes some wars are justified even if war always mean there has been a profound failure somewhere. It is pretty comical watching JD Vance stupid himself. The Catholic Church is never going to bend to him or trump, and neither understand it. trump’s name won’t even be a memory, and the Catholic Church will still be going strong…
Jews are his problem ?
Classic headline. You bestow upon us Such blessed alliterations….
Bravo, Batya. Well said.
The Catholic Church has participated in many wars, inquisitions and colonial actions over its history. It has forgiven warriors of their action's consequences. The Church combined with Kings (real ones) to further their political and theological agendas. AI estimates 0ver the history on religious wars that over 20 million were killed (not adjusted for the increase in global population), The old and the New Testament can be searched in AI in regards to the Bibles view on war. Here is an excerpt:
The Bible doesn’t give a single rule like “war is always right” or “war is always wrong.” Instead:
It records wars, sometimes as justified in context.
It points toward peace as the ultimate ideal.
It teaches individuals to pursue nonviolence, especially in the New Testament.
And we just thought this nut sack would be better than the last nut sack.