Vice President JD Vance spent the first half of the week telling us how “cool” it is that the IRGC is just like us, while Israel is an ungrateful pariah undermining the great United States.
He was always this, long before he was even a senator, long before he knew Tucker Carlson. A very ambitious, very bad man who will say and do anything, tell any lie, crush any friend or family member never mind a stranger, in his pursuit of power and fame. If he thought it behooved him to say the opposite, he would. And has.
I've never liked Vance. I was annoyed beyond measure when he was selected for VP because I've never liked Tucker, and I heard that's who was pushing his nomination. I wanted Rubio for President in 2016 and wanted him for VP in 2024. It's time for Republicans to disassociate with freaks like Tucker. Megyn and Candace were never Republicans to begin with, but Tucker pretended to be. Now, I don't know what he is beyond an exceptionally toxic presence among Republicans.
There's no parity between Tucker's blather and what Vance said. Hopefully he just wants to keep IRGC missiles in their bunker 'til after the midterms. He's a bit heavy-handed in nixing criticisms that Israel duped the US into fighting an unpopular war. The UAE is asking for a ceasefire so Iran will stop bombing their oil and water filtration facilities. They're also key in ending OPEC and forming a potential Arab alliance with Israel. Vance knows he's negotiating with ideological, historically untrustworthy people. For the sake of free Iranians, I pray the Trumpers are still committed to defanging the IRGC, but on a longer timeline. If things go against them politically, they're all screwed anyway.
You’re getting shrill, Batya. Vance did not “bring the US to its knees,” because the US is not on its knees. I’m not among those who claim Bibi seduced the US into this war, but at the same time I’m not among those who think US actions fail or succeed depending on whether Jerusalem approves.
VP Vance isn’t “shitposting.” He’s trying to balance difficult diplomatic demands. Can’t you see you’re feeding into precisely the narrative you don’t want?
It’s a bad look, and it doesn’t serve the US-Israeli relationship.
No Bibi did not "seduce us into this war". The Ayatollah and all the radical Islamists have been screaming --death to AMerica--death to the big Satan for 49 years ..all the while killing AMericans: the Marine Barracks etc.etc.
This is what you get when the adults have bailed out, or been chased out, of the Trump Administration.
Vice President J.D. Vance is no Mike Pence, and the Trump Administration is the weaker for it as surely as the nation is the poorer and less secure for it.
It’s not our military’s job to be at the service of every diaspora that has a score to settle. Not yours not Cuba not Venezuela not Germany. Just take a breath. Trump made a decision. Have faith.
"It’s not our military’s job to be at the service of every diaspora that has a score to settle."
That's true, but it's also completely irrelevant.
I'm pretty sure those 66 hostages that Iran took in 1979 were Americans, not Israelis. You can check me on that.
Would you like me to list the specific events in Iran's long history of state-sponsored terrorism, hostage-taking, maritime attacks, and proxy warfare against the USA?
Maybe in our lifetimes we will all see what happens to "the world economy" when Iran gets nukes and fulfills Twelver eschatology.
Most Americans have no clue how a radical Islamic ideologue looks at the world. It's a fundamentalism that is absurdly common in much of the non-Western world, and it makes your average bible-belt Bible-thumper look like a Richard Dawkins.
This is what happens when you leave your computer unattended and a retarded squirrel comes in through the window and rolls on your keyboard to scratch its back.
Oh, really Batya? Reducing our articulate and principled VP to a shitposter? Connecting him to Tucker’s whackadoodle views even though Vance has NEVER endorsed those views?? Ridiculous. Until you abandon this hysteria and acknowledge the irrefutable truth—that there are legitimate BENEFITS in addition to the well-trampled risks to ending this war—you have lost all credibility. Or maybe just leave journalism to start the Rubio 2028 campaign: no doubt it will be well funded!
I'm havin' trouble containin' my composure at the dumpster fulla excrement & execrations bein' emptied on Israel an' therefore by all've us joos who support O Israel (all 'cept the antizionist idiots on camp-puss). I feel like riffin' on Sally Field an' goin', "They HATE US, they REALLY REALLY HATE US!" I'd like ta think the American public smells a rat but I doubt it... at least from whut I'm readin' online--it's open season against us. Oy.
Batya, I’m a huge fan. I agree with everything you’re saying and your plain-speak articulation is, as always, brilliant and incisive. Thank you, really. But I must add that it is hard not to be astonished by your outrage and consternation with JD’s “content creator” and “shitposter” approach. Have you met his boss?? That is, quite literally, the calling card of this president, and administration, and you have been heaping praise on precisely this kind of leadership since Inauguration Day.
In any case, please keep speaking truth, it is so important and you’re far better at it than most.
Vance's actions are unbecoming of the position of Vice President of the United States
This is incredibly, staggeringly bad 🤦♀️
Hard not to feel like we are all f**ked. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right…
Actually, Bridget Phetasy has the best version of this:”Commies to the left of me, Nazis to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with Jews!”
luv 'er she's a real hoot!
Yes—in less polite company my language would be significantly more colorful…
He was always this, long before he was even a senator, long before he knew Tucker Carlson. A very ambitious, very bad man who will say and do anything, tell any lie, crush any friend or family member never mind a stranger, in his pursuit of power and fame. If he thought it behooved him to say the opposite, he would. And has.
I've never liked Vance. I was annoyed beyond measure when he was selected for VP because I've never liked Tucker, and I heard that's who was pushing his nomination. I wanted Rubio for President in 2016 and wanted him for VP in 2024. It's time for Republicans to disassociate with freaks like Tucker. Megyn and Candace were never Republicans to begin with, but Tucker pretended to be. Now, I don't know what he is beyond an exceptionally toxic presence among Republicans.
Thank you. This guy’s political career is ending.
We hope.
Just heard him say he and Joy Behar are best friends.
There's no parity between Tucker's blather and what Vance said. Hopefully he just wants to keep IRGC missiles in their bunker 'til after the midterms. He's a bit heavy-handed in nixing criticisms that Israel duped the US into fighting an unpopular war. The UAE is asking for a ceasefire so Iran will stop bombing their oil and water filtration facilities. They're also key in ending OPEC and forming a potential Arab alliance with Israel. Vance knows he's negotiating with ideological, historically untrustworthy people. For the sake of free Iranians, I pray the Trumpers are still committed to defanging the IRGC, but on a longer timeline. If things go against them politically, they're all screwed anyway.
You’re getting shrill, Batya. Vance did not “bring the US to its knees,” because the US is not on its knees. I’m not among those who claim Bibi seduced the US into this war, but at the same time I’m not among those who think US actions fail or succeed depending on whether Jerusalem approves.
VP Vance isn’t “shitposting.” He’s trying to balance difficult diplomatic demands. Can’t you see you’re feeding into precisely the narrative you don’t want?
It’s a bad look, and it doesn’t serve the US-Israeli relationship.
No Bibi did not "seduce us into this war". The Ayatollah and all the radical Islamists have been screaming --death to AMerica--death to the big Satan for 49 years ..all the while killing AMericans: the Marine Barracks etc.etc.
Agreed. The Trump administration had very good reasons to act. Those who say Israel dragged us in are simply wrong. And up to their usual.
This is what you get when the adults have bailed out, or been chased out, of the Trump Administration.
Vice President J.D. Vance is no Mike Pence, and the Trump Administration is the weaker for it as surely as the nation is the poorer and less secure for it.
Screaming into the void since his nomination…. Thanks Batya , for being so clear , and as angry as I feel
Yep. @Laura Loomer called it long ago.
HE WAS ALWAYS THIS PERSON, BATYA! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?????
Please stop. You’re going in the wrong direction.
It’s not our military’s job to be at the service of every diaspora that has a score to settle. Not yours not Cuba not Venezuela not Germany. Just take a breath. Trump made a decision. Have faith.
"It’s not our military’s job to be at the service of every diaspora that has a score to settle."
That's true, but it's also completely irrelevant.
I'm pretty sure those 66 hostages that Iran took in 1979 were Americans, not Israelis. You can check me on that.
Would you like me to list the specific events in Iran's long history of state-sponsored terrorism, hostage-taking, maritime attacks, and proxy warfare against the USA?
Sure but we never claimed to be there to avenge the 1979 issue.
Look Iran sucks, but they aren’t worth destroying the world economy. The deal we got is the best we will get. No nukes!
Regime change is not our problem.
Maybe in our lifetimes we will all see what happens to "the world economy" when Iran gets nukes and fulfills Twelver eschatology.
Most Americans have no clue how a radical Islamic ideologue looks at the world. It's a fundamentalism that is absurdly common in much of the non-Western world, and it makes your average bible-belt Bible-thumper look like a Richard Dawkins.
I love the guy and you are nobody. less than nobody
This is what happens when you leave your computer unattended and a retarded squirrel comes in through the window and rolls on your keyboard to scratch its back.
I've seen it happen.
Oh, really Batya? Reducing our articulate and principled VP to a shitposter? Connecting him to Tucker’s whackadoodle views even though Vance has NEVER endorsed those views?? Ridiculous. Until you abandon this hysteria and acknowledge the irrefutable truth—that there are legitimate BENEFITS in addition to the well-trampled risks to ending this war—you have lost all credibility. Or maybe just leave journalism to start the Rubio 2028 campaign: no doubt it will be well funded!
"articulate and principled VP"
"Principled", at least, has just gone out the window.
Right. Just another shitposter.
I'm havin' trouble containin' my composure at the dumpster fulla excrement & execrations bein' emptied on Israel an' therefore by all've us joos who support O Israel (all 'cept the antizionist idiots on camp-puss). I feel like riffin' on Sally Field an' goin', "They HATE US, they REALLY REALLY HATE US!" I'd like ta think the American public smells a rat but I doubt it... at least from whut I'm readin' online--it's open season against us. Oy.
Batya, I’m a huge fan. I agree with everything you’re saying and your plain-speak articulation is, as always, brilliant and incisive. Thank you, really. But I must add that it is hard not to be astonished by your outrage and consternation with JD’s “content creator” and “shitposter” approach. Have you met his boss?? That is, quite literally, the calling card of this president, and administration, and you have been heaping praise on precisely this kind of leadership since Inauguration Day.
In any case, please keep speaking truth, it is so important and you’re far better at it than most.