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Lesa's avatar

Take this on the interview circuit, Batya. These statistics need to be on every news outlet and podcast. The “do-gooder” (just ask them), over-educated elites think they are helping the working class. In reality, they are dooming them to the hamster wheel of basic survival instead of the ability to excel.

Alec Welsh's avatar

Who is the working class in this article? Who is considered the working class in the polling data what category are they in?

Lesa's avatar

Those without college degrees. The statistics are clearly labeled in the table provided.

Alec Welsh's avatar

Those without college degrees are automatically working class and those with college degrees are not? Based on what?

Lesa's avatar

Based on the salaries they make. Median wages are substantially higher for those with a degree. They are financially in different classes.

Alec Welsh's avatar

What is that number? Like really because nobody makes like a million dollars a year unless they play sports or become a CEO which is a very small portion of people In contrast to the general public.

Lesa's avatar

In Maine, median income for those with college degrees is around $62,500. It’s around $41,700 for those without. That’s almost 50 percent higher for degree-holders. There will always be outliers, of course. However, the point of the article is that Platner’s supporters fall firmly in the college degree camp, even though he presents himself as working class.

Les Vitailles's avatar

This is so unfair to Ro Khanna, who made his fortune the old-fashioned way: he married it.

His wife is a wealthy heiress, daughter of Monte Ahuja, the founder of the Transtar automotive supply company.

Like a Jane Austen novel except here the lucky groom also tries to run the country.

Alec Welsh's avatar

What are we going to rely on our mommy and daddy like Elon Musk and Donald Trump and Mark Zuckerberg did?

Salusa Secundus Snape's avatar

“… as I explained in a piece called “Stop Calling Them ‘Socialists.’ They’re Over-Credentialed White Gentrifiers Driven by Resentment Ousting Working-Class Candidates.”

Pithy!

“It would be less offensive if, in the name of fighting for a “working-class centered politics,” they focused on policy that working-class voters actually wanted, and managed to secure the votes of voters without a college degree.”

This is why Substackers need editors. At some point during your writing it ought to have occurred to you that you needed to demonstrate what commitments you yourself have to the “working class”. (Beyond knowing that the person bagging your organic kale at Trader Joe’s belongs to that cohort.)

mp's avatar

This is an excellent article and I agree 100%! So the question is, how do you get the working class to vote??

Angak's avatar

Your argument is flawed. You assume that because someone is wealthy or comes from a wealthy family, they cannot represent the working class. That's flawed thinking. Ideally, you want someone who is highly educated and understands the machinations of politics and economics, so they are able to develop a sound political strategy.

Alec Welsh's avatar

I think she's assuming anyone who is not college educated is just automatically working class and that college educated individuals can't be working class.

Alec Welsh's avatar

How are you differentiating between working class Americans and college grads? To college graduates not work?

It makes very little sense because none of your polling data addresses how they categorize working-class Americans.

Christopher Rixman's avatar

It’s honestly amazing watching the managerial class spend three decades economically dismembering the working class and then re-emerge like court historians explaining the peasants actually preferred it this way.

A truly breathtaking level of political gaslighting.

Loafergirl's avatar

…and they know it! That’s my 74 y.o. highly educated sister- it’s her TDS to the detriment of her own 7 grandchildren and mine and yours.

Richard's avatar

Thus it has always been. The Bolsheviks fancied themselves the Vanguard whom the workers would follow to utopia. The result was we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.

PurpleAmerica's avatar

"Progressives want you to believe socialism is on the march because working-class people have had enough. They want you to believe they are “fighting the oligarchy!” and they are taking on the billionaires and the “Epstein class” and bringing back an agenda focused on labor. But it’s all nonsense. You know how I know? Because it’s rich people who vote for them, and working people voting for their opponents."

100%. You want more evidence? AOC screaming about oligarchy and the 1%, and then gladly dining with them at the ultra-exclusive, invite-only, top 0.01% Met Gala. It's the kind of B.S. that made "Prada Socialism" (a term they use to show how everyone will prosper) a thing. The poor and working class recognize it for the B.S. that it is and sprint in the other direction.

Alec Welsh's avatar

I would like evidence to start out with. She provide evidence of working-class voters she provided evidence of educated versus non-educated voters.

How many college graduates are working class?

How much money do you have to make to not be considered work class?