Take this on the interview circuit, Batya. These statistics need to be on every news outlet and podcast. The “do-gooder” (just ask them), over-educated elites think they are helping the working class. In reality, they are dooming them to the hamster wheel of basic survival instead of the ability to excel.
What is that number? Like really because nobody makes like a million dollars a year unless they play sports or become a CEO which is a very small portion of people In contrast to the general public.
In Maine, median income for those with college degrees is around $62,500. It’s around $41,700 for those without. That’s almost 50 percent higher for degree-holders. There will always be outliers, of course. However, the point of the article is that Platner’s supporters fall firmly in the college degree camp, even though he presents himself as working class.
"Progressives want you to believe socialism is on the march because working-class people have had enough. They want you to believe they are “fighting the oligarchy!” and they are taking on the billionaires and the “Epstein class” and bringing back an agenda focused on labor. But it’s all nonsense. You know how I know? Because it’s rich people who vote for them, and working people voting for their opponents."
100%. You want more evidence? AOC screaming about oligarchy and the 1%, and then gladly dining with them at the ultra-exclusive, invite-only, top 0.01% Met Gala. It's the kind of B.S. that made "Prada Socialism" (a term they use to show how everyone will prosper) a thing. The poor and working class recognize it for the B.S. that it is and sprint in the other direction.
Your argument is flawed. You assume that because someone is wealthy or comes from a wealthy family, they cannot represent the working class. That's flawed thinking. Ideally, you want someone who is highly educated and understands the machinations of politics and economics, so they are able to develop a sound political strategy.
I think she's assuming anyone who is not college educated is just automatically working class and that college educated individuals can't be working class.
These people make me sick. The do not care about the working class or the middle class. They want to defund the police and abolish jails. They want more immigration. All those things hurt the working class. Disgusting!!
wow. interesting insight. nonetheless, judging from those in the NY rallies, it doesn't appear to be largely collegiate sorts. I hope you're right. God help us if you're not.
It’s honestly amazing watching the managerial class spend three decades economically dismembering the working class and then re-emerge like court historians explaining the peasants actually preferred it this way.
A truly breathtaking level of political gaslighting.
“… as I explained in a piece called “Stop Calling Them ‘Socialists.’ They’re Over-Credentialed White Gentrifiers Driven by Resentment Ousting Working-Class Candidates.”
Pithy!
“It would be less offensive if, in the name of fighting for a “working-class centered politics,” they focused on policy that working-class voters actually wanted, and managed to secure the votes of voters without a college degree.”
This is why Substackers need editors. At some point during your writing it ought to have occurred to you that you needed to demonstrate what commitments you yourself have to the “working class”. (Beyond knowing that the person bagging your organic kale at Trader Joe’s belongs to that cohort.)
Yeah, the progressives are the educated. The people who know how to read data. The people who read in general. Guilty.
The progressives are the readers. They aren't the edgy tweeters, the reality TV celebrities, the smooth talking, snappy-dressed, Epstein-befriending CEOs, the Donald Trumps and Elon Musks and their fawning cults.
We're the nameless scientists, teachers, knowledge workers. The engineers who built the companies the tech oligarchs take all the credit for. We're pissed off, we're rising, and we know what we're talking about.
Get used to it. The days of dismissing us as being too uncool to be heard are coming to an end.
The scientist is one who accepts the results with an open mind, not one who sticks to the dogma of past attitudes or what feels right. And scientifically, there's plenty of evidence that trans people have actual brain differences, even if it's hard to put up to a single difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_gender_incongruence
If you have an open mind, the answer becomes obvious. Gay men are known to often have feminine mannerisms and voices that are hard to hide. They aren't trans and don't feel like women, they don't have phantom breasts, etc., but other people assignmed male do and might not have the feminine mannerisms or even attraction to men.
Which is all to say, the obvious truth is what we can gender is determined by a variety of characteristics, including brain characteristics, and not everyone has these in a way that matches their gender as we'd expect. This is the obvious truth if looked at openly but almost everyone refuses to see it.
Thanks for making my point for me, the total unreliability and lack of bravery of the liberal bias. It's a crying shame how your group sold out your principles.
Please. I'm not even talking about trans stuff, you brought it up. I'm talking about people who understand that vaccines save lives. People who know the history of corrupt and authoritarian governments and what they do to countries.
We didn't sell out shit. America used to be a country that embraced knowledge, science, and individual freedom, and hated kings. You guys sold that all out because someone said you're gay if you don't
Both sides have sold out in so many ways, it's a struggle not to. The pressures are immense.
But I'm afraid your lame defense of temperament over biological reality that is reflected across the left class is really indicative of your failure and your class's failure.
You're the one who brought up how proud you are scientists and teachers follow the data and are thus trustworthy.
That was once the case, but after the debacle of selling out women's sex based rights to gender feelz, the liberal rational class shown to be illiberal and irrational.
That's before we even get into critical race theory, another cowpat you guys willingly stepped in.
And to top it off, you're now subscribing to the Modern Monetary Theory of The Democratic Socialists that was discredited in the 70s and 80s.
Take this on the interview circuit, Batya. These statistics need to be on every news outlet and podcast. The “do-gooder” (just ask them), over-educated elites think they are helping the working class. In reality, they are dooming them to the hamster wheel of basic survival instead of the ability to excel.
Who is the working class in this article? Who is considered the working class in the polling data what category are they in?
Those without college degrees. The statistics are clearly labeled in the table provided.
Those without college degrees are automatically working class and those with college degrees are not? Based on what?
Based on the salaries they make. Median wages are substantially higher for those with a degree. They are financially in different classes.
What is that number? Like really because nobody makes like a million dollars a year unless they play sports or become a CEO which is a very small portion of people In contrast to the general public.
In Maine, median income for those with college degrees is around $62,500. It’s around $41,700 for those without. That’s almost 50 percent higher for degree-holders. There will always be outliers, of course. However, the point of the article is that Platner’s supporters fall firmly in the college degree camp, even though he presents himself as working class.
This is so unfair to Ro Khanna, who made his fortune the old-fashioned way: he married it.
His wife is a wealthy heiress, daughter of Monte Ahuja, the founder of the Transtar automotive supply company.
Like a Jane Austen novel except here the lucky groom also tries to run the country.
What are we going to rely on our mommy and daddy like Elon Musk and Donald Trump and Mark Zuckerberg did?
"Progressives want you to believe socialism is on the march because working-class people have had enough. They want you to believe they are “fighting the oligarchy!” and they are taking on the billionaires and the “Epstein class” and bringing back an agenda focused on labor. But it’s all nonsense. You know how I know? Because it’s rich people who vote for them, and working people voting for their opponents."
100%. You want more evidence? AOC screaming about oligarchy and the 1%, and then gladly dining with them at the ultra-exclusive, invite-only, top 0.01% Met Gala. It's the kind of B.S. that made "Prada Socialism" (a term they use to show how everyone will prosper) a thing. The poor and working class recognize it for the B.S. that it is and sprint in the other direction.
I would like evidence to start out with. She provide evidence of working-class voters she provided evidence of educated versus non-educated voters.
How many college graduates are working class?
How much money do you have to make to not be considered work class?
Your argument is flawed. You assume that because someone is wealthy or comes from a wealthy family, they cannot represent the working class. That's flawed thinking. Ideally, you want someone who is highly educated and understands the machinations of politics and economics, so they are able to develop a sound political strategy.
I think she's assuming anyone who is not college educated is just automatically working class and that college educated individuals can't be working class.
Her fundamental argument is just anti-intellectualism. That anyone who’s educated is an “elite” and thus in opposition to the working class.
While at the same time she claims to be a champion of the working class while heaping praise on the radically anti-worker Donald Trump.
The left always lives the life of Reilly and seeks to regulate and tax thee but not me
These people make me sick. The do not care about the working class or the middle class. They want to defund the police and abolish jails. They want more immigration. All those things hurt the working class. Disgusting!!
wow. interesting insight. nonetheless, judging from those in the NY rallies, it doesn't appear to be largely collegiate sorts. I hope you're right. God help us if you're not.
Excellent read! Thanks for keeping us “in the know.”
How are you differentiating between working class Americans and college grads? To college graduates not work?
It makes very little sense because none of your polling data addresses how they categorize working-class Americans.
Oh, stop - everyone knows the difference. Morons from college think they know everything and that communism just hasn’t been done right!
Whereas morons like you deem everything they don’t like to be “communism.”
Nope. You either actually can explain the difference or you can't. We see college grads are not elite making millions or billions of dollars.
It’s honestly amazing watching the managerial class spend three decades economically dismembering the working class and then re-emerge like court historians explaining the peasants actually preferred it this way.
A truly breathtaking level of political gaslighting.
“… as I explained in a piece called “Stop Calling Them ‘Socialists.’ They’re Over-Credentialed White Gentrifiers Driven by Resentment Ousting Working-Class Candidates.”
Pithy!
“It would be less offensive if, in the name of fighting for a “working-class centered politics,” they focused on policy that working-class voters actually wanted, and managed to secure the votes of voters without a college degree.”
This is why Substackers need editors. At some point during your writing it ought to have occurred to you that you needed to demonstrate what commitments you yourself have to the “working class”. (Beyond knowing that the person bagging your organic kale at Trader Joe’s belongs to that cohort.)
Red herring alert! Or is it straw man?
This is an excellent article and I agree 100%! So the question is, how do you get the working class to vote??
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For the love of Pete, let’s refer to them as DEGREED women, when college educated is clearly not the case
He is the favorite among yellow dog Democrats who want to capture the Senate. The only question is do they outnumber normal people.
Yeah, the progressives are the educated. The people who know how to read data. The people who read in general. Guilty.
The progressives are the readers. They aren't the edgy tweeters, the reality TV celebrities, the smooth talking, snappy-dressed, Epstein-befriending CEOs, the Donald Trumps and Elon Musks and their fawning cults.
We're the nameless scientists, teachers, knowledge workers. The engineers who built the companies the tech oligarchs take all the credit for. We're pissed off, we're rising, and we know what we're talking about.
Get used to it. The days of dismissing us as being too uncool to be heard are coming to an end.
Hmm, how many of you scientists and teachers spoke truth to power as you see it when the trans cult was in full flight?
And I'm meant to believe your ability to read data and still stick up for an anti science and anti human cult.
Excuse me while I pass on your bold claims.
The scientist is one who accepts the results with an open mind, not one who sticks to the dogma of past attitudes or what feels right. And scientifically, there's plenty of evidence that trans people have actual brain differences, even if it's hard to put up to a single difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_gender_incongruence
If you have an open mind, the answer becomes obvious. Gay men are known to often have feminine mannerisms and voices that are hard to hide. They aren't trans and don't feel like women, they don't have phantom breasts, etc., but other people assignmed male do and might not have the feminine mannerisms or even attraction to men.
Which is all to say, the obvious truth is what we can gender is determined by a variety of characteristics, including brain characteristics, and not everyone has these in a way that matches their gender as we'd expect. This is the obvious truth if looked at openly but almost everyone refuses to see it.
Thanks for making my point for me, the total unreliability and lack of bravery of the liberal bias. It's a crying shame how your group sold out your principles.
Please. I'm not even talking about trans stuff, you brought it up. I'm talking about people who understand that vaccines save lives. People who know the history of corrupt and authoritarian governments and what they do to countries.
We didn't sell out shit. America used to be a country that embraced knowledge, science, and individual freedom, and hated kings. You guys sold that all out because someone said you're gay if you don't
Both sides have sold out in so many ways, it's a struggle not to. The pressures are immense.
But I'm afraid your lame defense of temperament over biological reality that is reflected across the left class is really indicative of your failure and your class's failure.
You're the one who brought up how proud you are scientists and teachers follow the data and are thus trustworthy.
That was once the case, but after the debacle of selling out women's sex based rights to gender feelz, the liberal rational class shown to be illiberal and irrational.
That's before we even get into critical race theory, another cowpat you guys willingly stepped in.
And to top it off, you're now subscribing to the Modern Monetary Theory of The Democratic Socialists that was discredited in the 70s and 80s.
Keep following the data, one day you'll get it.
What if I told you the brain is part of biological reality.