One of the common tricks for such data sets is to count violence by white prison gangs as right-wing, but somehow violence by black or Hispanic prison gangs doesn’t count as left-wing.
Oddly enough, I just had this "convo" with Grok. I say convo because I kept pointing out that the data is massively flawed and even Groc references "far Right" but does not refer to "far Left" anywhere. The problem is that FBIi data is relient on the self reporting of US police departments or prosecutions. The BLM, Antifa attacks are also not labeled as far left violence because the statistics ignore violence which occurs "by chance" and the usual nonsense that antifa doesn't have a central organization. So the people who decide what constitutes hate crimes and violence purposely exclude the largest purveyors of violence because they don't announce it ahead of time. They also exclude from hate crimes violence things like looting and arson when done in conjuction with 1st amendment protest activities.
This is a very needed service Batya! Thanks for exposing this at this time. I had reviewed this data set a couple of years ago and knew about the right being tagged with the violence committed in prisons from the aryan brother's while BLM and most left wing acts were omitted. I was not aware that the attacks on ICE or the violence of the Palestinian riots was also omitted. Not surprised. The left lies about everything...
Our entire "education"/media/NGO/govt complex is a radical and radicalizing enterprise that won't stop until we are completely controlled by its "soft" tyranny. Make no mistake, these people are the enemy. The organizers, the money, the status seekers, the useful idiots, all of them.
Refreshing to have someone as smart and educated as B! jump onto this. Absent such push-back partisan data “review” - when repeated without question over and over - seems to become true
Excellent excellent excellent ammunition to rebut their forthcoming lies. Thank you for making us predators to them lest we become their prey animals. Civilization is still a contest between hierarchies in a mutual eating society where one creature lives at the expense of another (see cabbages and slugs). I don't intend to be eaten. Thank you very much.
So, I want to be sure I understand what you are saying, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Is it your assertion that the 2 people shot by Rittenhouse be counted as an example of right-wing violence or an example of left-wing violence being stopped? Or neither?
One of the common tricks for such data sets is to count violence by white prison gangs as right-wing, but somehow violence by black or Hispanic prison gangs doesn’t count as left-wing.
I am a data geek and my first instinct is always to check the data. Let me pick the base year and I can win any argument.
Thank you Batya! 👏👏👏
Thank you for doing the work to counter the right-wing violence assertion. You are the lone voice vs the entirety of legacy media.
Oddly enough, I just had this "convo" with Grok. I say convo because I kept pointing out that the data is massively flawed and even Groc references "far Right" but does not refer to "far Left" anywhere. The problem is that FBIi data is relient on the self reporting of US police departments or prosecutions. The BLM, Antifa attacks are also not labeled as far left violence because the statistics ignore violence which occurs "by chance" and the usual nonsense that antifa doesn't have a central organization. So the people who decide what constitutes hate crimes and violence purposely exclude the largest purveyors of violence because they don't announce it ahead of time. They also exclude from hate crimes violence things like looting and arson when done in conjuction with 1st amendment protest activities.
This is a very needed service Batya! Thanks for exposing this at this time. I had reviewed this data set a couple of years ago and knew about the right being tagged with the violence committed in prisons from the aryan brother's while BLM and most left wing acts were omitted. I was not aware that the attacks on ICE or the violence of the Palestinian riots was also omitted. Not surprised. The left lies about everything...
Our entire "education"/media/NGO/govt complex is a radical and radicalizing enterprise that won't stop until we are completely controlled by its "soft" tyranny. Make no mistake, these people are the enemy. The organizers, the money, the status seekers, the useful idiots, all of them.
Refreshing to have someone as smart and educated as B! jump onto this. Absent such push-back partisan data “review” - when repeated without question over and over - seems to become true
Excellent excellent excellent ammunition to rebut their forthcoming lies. Thank you for making us predators to them lest we become their prey animals. Civilization is still a contest between hierarchies in a mutual eating society where one creature lives at the expense of another (see cabbages and slugs). I don't intend to be eaten. Thank you very much.
I’m sure Jamie Raskins squeeze (Tarlov) will cite these folks on the Five today. Or Harold will sneakily reference them.
Were the people Kyle Rittenhouse killed included?
Why would Rittenhouse be included in a hate crime article when he was defending himself from attacks from leftwing loons?
The issue is "people killed during violence."
Self-defense is another metric/legal standard and is irrelevant to whether someone has been killed or not.
So, I want to be sure I understand what you are saying, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Is it your assertion that the 2 people shot by Rittenhouse be counted as an example of right-wing violence or an example of left-wing violence being stopped? Or neither?
Is the metric
1. "Died"
Or
2. "Died as the result of someone using lethal force adjudicated as being justified by the U.S. justice system."