Thank you Batya. Please keep up your good work. The more that people understand that the legacy media is lying to them, the better it will be for us all. So much unnecessary division in society could be entirely avoided if only the media stopped trying to manipulate us all the time and reported all the facts, not just the ones that suit a narrative.
All of the above is precisely why whatever the latest Dem “outrage” is it should never be taken @ face value; there’s the spin/meme they - & the media - are pushing & then there’s the truth.
History proves they have no interest in the latter.
I initially found many details in the story very hard to believe. In particular, him not leaving the country for 16 years, not even visiting Ireland or going on vacation. If he traveled, his overstay would've been discovered on re-entry and he would've been banned. I thought the only explanation, outside of the story being a 100% fabrication, was him committing a crime in Ireland. And my guess was correct.
There are still more lies and confusion about this story if you can believe it.
Him being arrested as a result of an random ICE sweep is a lie, he already had a final order of removal. His inadmissibility (both his overstay and his criminal history) was discovered either on his Green Card application (forms and documents) or, if he lied on his form, on his background check. Getting a Green Card interview scheduled after he already got a final order of removal is a lie, his case was already closed. Getting a bond approved is a lie, his final order of removal makes him ineligible. I also wonder if his marriage is real, if he lied to her and if there is an extradition order. It's hard to believe that his wife would have only one call with him after 5 months. I checked this facility, it offers tablets and the application for calls, and it has in-person visitations.
Unfortunately, this has all gone a little bit too far and not what voters asked for.
I’m usually with you 100%, but the rounding up of people who have been here for over 10 years with no criminal record is unnecessary.
If we couldn’t catch illegals sooner, that signals a grave system failure in need of a serious correction. What is egregious, and got Trump elected, was the systematic social engineering by leftist activist radicals who flooded our country and others with millions of unfettered illegals over a very short period of time. That invasion is what needed to be stopped. The criminal element snuck in with the hoards should be rounded up and deported. Leave the rest. The borders are closed. Now fix the broken system.
So, by extension, cold cases dated 10 years back or further should just get a shrug?
Overstaying a visa, ostensibly to evade a drug arrest and trial, is a crime. This isn't the same as running a stop sign or swiping a candy bar from 7-11 when a teen. If it wasn't a big deal, why would an immigration judge set his case for deportation?
Intelligent discretion should be used in cases that pre-date the radical leftist globalist scheme to social engineer the world, yes. A knee-jerk reaction to the other extreme won’t make it right.
The rule of law can still be applied, but as the rules for immigration were basically thrown out the window the last few years, we can surely apply thoughtful, humane governance to those who have been here a long time and have proven to be good citizens. We need them. We do not need or want violent criminals who slipped in with them. There is a way to handle this much better.
Your points are well taken and, IMHO, well reasoned. However, I cannot get by a couple other points. One, this is a case that is in the tiny minority. It is cherry picked. It is what the Leftists always do to bolster a weak argument. Polls, minute examples out of a preponderance of good. Even going to extremes (R's want to roll granny off a cliff in a wheelchair comes to mind). Second, this guy isn't taking the free cash and free plane ticket. Why? Because he has drug charges against him in Ireland. It is, no doubt, why he came here in the first place. The logical thing to do is to hire a solicitor in Ireland to take his case and try to get it thrown out or negotiate with Irish justice and possibly accept six months in jail for a guilty plea and then return back here properly. It would take a lot of finagling and some money in Ireland and in the US to have a lawyer that specializes in immigration take his case to DHS or the state department. But that's what you do. That's what I would do. That's what the vast majority of people I know would do. This particular Irishman, again in my opinion, it's like a crying child who wants his iPad back. He expects mommy government to hand it to him.
Yes. And, I absolutely agree with you. The entire premise is a smoke screen and devised to divide and take our attention away.
There are more pressing immigration issues, such as tourism immigration from countries like China and Mexico, but most especially China, that have allowed more than one million babies to be born here after their parents vacationing here only a few days because as our law currently stands that anyone born on US soil achieves automatic citizenship. That is egregious.
So, my concern is not so much with the case highlighted in Satya’s post as other much more important problems with our policies and the cultural extremism they insist on dragging us all into.
We have control here. We say no. We will not fight amongst ourselves. We will fight you.
It's also indisputably factual true, which is why you resorted to implied insults rather than attempting to find any kind of rational argument against his point.
So the trick is to break the law and then get away with it for how many years? 10? 5? 2? Apparently you think that if a decade has passed then a lawbreaker should get away with their crime. How about petty theft? Forgery? Or is it just illegal immigration that gets a pass as long as they don't get caught immediately?
The person in question didn’t break any laws here, except for overstaying a visa. In his case, if the rule of law was appropriately applied at the time, he may have gone back. I have addressed this in my reply to Stephen above. We need to correct the past and send home criminals who got in with the good. We cannot litigate now the politicians idiocies of the past fairly. We round up and send back the criminally insane and leave the rest to abide by our laws. Most people merely seek the opportunity for a better life. We should support that and make sure our Constitutional laws are applied. That means holding politicians accountable not persecuting each other.
He didn't break any laws except the one he broke. There is undoubtedly more to the story than a nice upstanding citizen who just happened to overstay a visa. He has drug charges back home. I suppose he should get a pass on those due to avoiding the consequences for a decade?
We nees to get rid of the violent criminals but that doesn't mean we shouldn't deal with all the people here illegally as we can. Nobody should get a pass because they got away with it for a time.
Yes, I agree with you. I think people voted for getting rid of the 20 million who came over the last five years, and by extension any violent criminals. This guy had a job, was contributing positively, but in any event seems to have had an independent right to citizenship if he was married to an American here and had a family. I think Trump is going to lose the Hispanic vote over this.
I understand and agree with your point. In the years after Covid and during Biden, TDS and the global culture laws egregiously corrupted politics and broke down the rule of law opening our doors to hoards of people. Criminals were sent in with the good by those countries seeking to undermine us- and hoping the fight between us would occupy us rather than focus on them. They are winning. We are persecuting each other instead of demanding they follow the rule of law and apply it correctly and immediately. What I object to is politicians pitting people against each other to continue their dirty business.
I believe during Obama’s administration a lot of people got turned away at the point of entry, so there was no need for “raids” as many simply never reached the inside of the US. Another fact is that Obama wasn’t a Republican and he wasn’t orange, so he could do nothing wrong.
Agree. The tactics which ICE operated with in some of the immigrant communities in Chicago were not justified and not productive. In the end, only a small fraction of those with criminal backgrounds got arrested. If executed carefully and tactfully, the Trump administration could have achieved much better results with much less fanfare and division. But like you said, too late for that.
Then that should occur at the time not 10 years after the fact. Ten years after the fact is not applying the rule of law; it is political gamesmanship. And I object to that more.
There should be a penalty for each year of breaking immigration law. Ten penalties.
It's the law.
I agree that it's "political gamesmanship" in that the D-Party uses lawbreaking to somehow make the enforcement side look "cruel." So now we have violent criminals running around hurting people because grabbing them in a violent manner to get them off the street is "cruel."
A majority of the people who entered the US during Mayorkas/Biden claimed asylum. You can do that without having ID. It's an excellent opportunity to wash your identity. At least we have his real identity but there are lots of foreign criminals who have no US record.
Great job chasing down the foreign charges. But convictions are what matters. If his wife filed an I-130 he probably filed an I-485. If he omitted the charges it could be fraud along with the visa waiver overstay.
This has a lot of the energy of “I found out that you screwed up a very very long time ago so anything horrible we do to you now is awesome”. Not a great mentality.
Thanks for your great work Batya! I am concerned that you are missing a lot of the corruption on the right, however. Can you investigate the links between World Liberty Financial crypto, the UAE, advanced AI chip sales (previously illegal due to fears of the CCP getting hold of them) and Trump's pardon of Changpeng Zhao, the CEO of Binance?
Nobody has mentioned the potato famine. I assume the alleged “illegal” ran away from Ireland to avoid persecution and starvation. We should be compassionate. Ireland, Cuba, Venezuela, et al are cruel places to live.
Thank you Batya, love your work. Also so happy for you getting the News Nation gig, a well deserved opportunity. Love watching such a civil, polite, classy anchor that is thorough and professional without ever being snarky or rude, you set a great example.
"Modern-day concentration camp" is wild and an insult to anyone who has ever actually been in a concentration camp. Not that I would know, I've spent almost my entire life in the U.S.A., so I'm one of the safest, freest, and richest people in the history of mankind. Heart disease a bigger threat than hunger? What a country.
Unfortunately, this view is not shared by many of our friends on the left. I don't live in the States anymore. I'm in the Hinterlands of Central America and was recently talking to some fellow Westerners here. They wouldn't recognize that we live in luxury, especially compared to the locals. This is a pleasant town, but it still is Latin America. If the you-know-what hits the fan, we will be escorted out of here with such care, you'd think we were fragile little snowflakes.
Ah I was wondering what the rub was. Drug charges, because marriage is an immediate forgiveness of an overstay no matter how long. Naughty boy. I wonder if he can now go through the consular process or is that up in smoke - ba dum. Lol.
OT: Your name makes you sound like a DC comics super hero or super villain. IRL, you're a superhero to me. Love your writing (and your "righting").
Sadly, the news media is engaged in a shouting match where the loudest, most repeated and last voice holds sway regardless of its veracity or lack of it. So, please do keep repeating the debunking (and doing it so effectively). I think it's what Reagan would do.
Thank you Batya. Please keep up your good work. The more that people understand that the legacy media is lying to them, the better it will be for us all. So much unnecessary division in society could be entirely avoided if only the media stopped trying to manipulate us all the time and reported all the facts, not just the ones that suit a narrative.
All of the above is precisely why whatever the latest Dem “outrage” is it should never be taken @ face value; there’s the spin/meme they - & the media - are pushing & then there’s the truth.
History proves they have no interest in the latter.
They spread false narratives to keep their base worked up and ready for the next protest when the circus comes to town
I initially found many details in the story very hard to believe. In particular, him not leaving the country for 16 years, not even visiting Ireland or going on vacation. If he traveled, his overstay would've been discovered on re-entry and he would've been banned. I thought the only explanation, outside of the story being a 100% fabrication, was him committing a crime in Ireland. And my guess was correct.
There are still more lies and confusion about this story if you can believe it.
Him being arrested as a result of an random ICE sweep is a lie, he already had a final order of removal. His inadmissibility (both his overstay and his criminal history) was discovered either on his Green Card application (forms and documents) or, if he lied on his form, on his background check. Getting a Green Card interview scheduled after he already got a final order of removal is a lie, his case was already closed. Getting a bond approved is a lie, his final order of removal makes him ineligible. I also wonder if his marriage is real, if he lied to her and if there is an extradition order. It's hard to believe that his wife would have only one call with him after 5 months. I checked this facility, it offers tablets and the application for calls, and it has in-person visitations.
Unfortunately, this has all gone a little bit too far and not what voters asked for.
I’m usually with you 100%, but the rounding up of people who have been here for over 10 years with no criminal record is unnecessary.
If we couldn’t catch illegals sooner, that signals a grave system failure in need of a serious correction. What is egregious, and got Trump elected, was the systematic social engineering by leftist activist radicals who flooded our country and others with millions of unfettered illegals over a very short period of time. That invasion is what needed to be stopped. The criminal element snuck in with the hoards should be rounded up and deported. Leave the rest. The borders are closed. Now fix the broken system.
So, by extension, cold cases dated 10 years back or further should just get a shrug?
Overstaying a visa, ostensibly to evade a drug arrest and trial, is a crime. This isn't the same as running a stop sign or swiping a candy bar from 7-11 when a teen. If it wasn't a big deal, why would an immigration judge set his case for deportation?
Intelligent discretion should be used in cases that pre-date the radical leftist globalist scheme to social engineer the world, yes. A knee-jerk reaction to the other extreme won’t make it right.
The rule of law can still be applied, but as the rules for immigration were basically thrown out the window the last few years, we can surely apply thoughtful, humane governance to those who have been here a long time and have proven to be good citizens. We need them. We do not need or want violent criminals who slipped in with them. There is a way to handle this much better.
Your points are well taken and, IMHO, well reasoned. However, I cannot get by a couple other points. One, this is a case that is in the tiny minority. It is cherry picked. It is what the Leftists always do to bolster a weak argument. Polls, minute examples out of a preponderance of good. Even going to extremes (R's want to roll granny off a cliff in a wheelchair comes to mind). Second, this guy isn't taking the free cash and free plane ticket. Why? Because he has drug charges against him in Ireland. It is, no doubt, why he came here in the first place. The logical thing to do is to hire a solicitor in Ireland to take his case and try to get it thrown out or negotiate with Irish justice and possibly accept six months in jail for a guilty plea and then return back here properly. It would take a lot of finagling and some money in Ireland and in the US to have a lawyer that specializes in immigration take his case to DHS or the state department. But that's what you do. That's what I would do. That's what the vast majority of people I know would do. This particular Irishman, again in my opinion, it's like a crying child who wants his iPad back. He expects mommy government to hand it to him.
Yes. And, I absolutely agree with you. The entire premise is a smoke screen and devised to divide and take our attention away.
There are more pressing immigration issues, such as tourism immigration from countries like China and Mexico, but most especially China, that have allowed more than one million babies to be born here after their parents vacationing here only a few days because as our law currently stands that anyone born on US soil achieves automatic citizenship. That is egregious.
So, my concern is not so much with the case highlighted in Satya’s post as other much more important problems with our policies and the cultural extremism they insist on dragging us all into.
We have control here. We say no. We will not fight amongst ourselves. We will fight you.
I plan on buying Peter Schweizer's new book this week.
They ARE criminals. They are breaking the law by being here illegally. Full stop.
Yes. Very easy to have that pov. Doesn’t require you to think or do much.
It's also indisputably factual true, which is why you resorted to implied insults rather than attempting to find any kind of rational argument against his point.
So the trick is to break the law and then get away with it for how many years? 10? 5? 2? Apparently you think that if a decade has passed then a lawbreaker should get away with their crime. How about petty theft? Forgery? Or is it just illegal immigration that gets a pass as long as they don't get caught immediately?
The person in question didn’t break any laws here, except for overstaying a visa. In his case, if the rule of law was appropriately applied at the time, he may have gone back. I have addressed this in my reply to Stephen above. We need to correct the past and send home criminals who got in with the good. We cannot litigate now the politicians idiocies of the past fairly. We round up and send back the criminally insane and leave the rest to abide by our laws. Most people merely seek the opportunity for a better life. We should support that and make sure our Constitutional laws are applied. That means holding politicians accountable not persecuting each other.
He didn't break any laws except the one he broke. There is undoubtedly more to the story than a nice upstanding citizen who just happened to overstay a visa. He has drug charges back home. I suppose he should get a pass on those due to avoiding the consequences for a decade?
We nees to get rid of the violent criminals but that doesn't mean we shouldn't deal with all the people here illegally as we can. Nobody should get a pass because they got away with it for a time.
Exactly!
Yes, I agree with you. I think people voted for getting rid of the 20 million who came over the last five years, and by extension any violent criminals. This guy had a job, was contributing positively, but in any event seems to have had an independent right to citizenship if he was married to an American here and had a family. I think Trump is going to lose the Hispanic vote over this.
I disagree more or less. How did Obama deport so many without a squawk from anyone(that I recall)?
I understand and agree with your point. In the years after Covid and during Biden, TDS and the global culture laws egregiously corrupted politics and broke down the rule of law opening our doors to hoards of people. Criminals were sent in with the good by those countries seeking to undermine us- and hoping the fight between us would occupy us rather than focus on them. They are winning. We are persecuting each other instead of demanding they follow the rule of law and apply it correctly and immediately. What I object to is politicians pitting people against each other to continue their dirty business.
I believe during Obama’s administration a lot of people got turned away at the point of entry, so there was no need for “raids” as many simply never reached the inside of the US. Another fact is that Obama wasn’t a Republican and he wasn’t orange, so he could do nothing wrong.
Agree. The tactics which ICE operated with in some of the immigrant communities in Chicago were not justified and not productive. In the end, only a small fraction of those with criminal backgrounds got arrested. If executed carefully and tactfully, the Trump administration could have achieved much better results with much less fanfare and division. But like you said, too late for that.
Yes. Less than 14%.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-arrests-violent-criminal-records-trump-first-year/
Not included in "violent crimes" are pedophile publishers, drug dealers, insurance fraud, etc.
Wrong.
It is illegal to live in the US without due process.
That is all.
Then that should occur at the time not 10 years after the fact. Ten years after the fact is not applying the rule of law; it is political gamesmanship. And I object to that more.
There should be a penalty for each year of breaking immigration law. Ten penalties.
It's the law.
I agree that it's "political gamesmanship" in that the D-Party uses lawbreaking to somehow make the enforcement side look "cruel." So now we have violent criminals running around hurting people because grabbing them in a violent manner to get them off the street is "cruel."
The D-Party is ridiculous.
Ok, yes. But in this case, and in many others, this is simply not the case.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-arrests-violent-criminal-records-trump-first-year/
What is it you don't get about how being in the US illegally is ILLEGAL?
Why is illegal immigration a benefit to you?
Why do you think Americans should have to compete with the world for jobs and housing?
It's not as if this is new!
You do know what 'useful idiot' means?
Agree violent criminals should go, no statute of limitations. I just don’t agree with you on the rest. Who is the useful idiot?
What a surprise. Not.
A majority of the people who entered the US during Mayorkas/Biden claimed asylum. You can do that without having ID. It's an excellent opportunity to wash your identity. At least we have his real identity but there are lots of foreign criminals who have no US record.
Great job chasing down the foreign charges. But convictions are what matters. If his wife filed an I-130 he probably filed an I-485. If he omitted the charges it could be fraud along with the visa waiver overstay.
This has a lot of the energy of “I found out that you screwed up a very very long time ago so anything horrible we do to you now is awesome”. Not a great mentality.
Thanks for your great work Batya! I am concerned that you are missing a lot of the corruption on the right, however. Can you investigate the links between World Liberty Financial crypto, the UAE, advanced AI chip sales (previously illegal due to fears of the CCP getting hold of them) and Trump's pardon of Changpeng Zhao, the CEO of Binance?
Nobody has mentioned the potato famine. I assume the alleged “illegal” ran away from Ireland to avoid persecution and starvation. We should be compassionate. Ireland, Cuba, Venezuela, et al are cruel places to live.
Get this guy the fuck outta here.
Thank you Batya, love your work. Also so happy for you getting the News Nation gig, a well deserved opportunity. Love watching such a civil, polite, classy anchor that is thorough and professional without ever being snarky or rude, you set a great example.
Thank you for this excellent reporting.
"Modern-day concentration camp" is wild and an insult to anyone who has ever actually been in a concentration camp. Not that I would know, I've spent almost my entire life in the U.S.A., so I'm one of the safest, freest, and richest people in the history of mankind. Heart disease a bigger threat than hunger? What a country.
Unfortunately, this view is not shared by many of our friends on the left. I don't live in the States anymore. I'm in the Hinterlands of Central America and was recently talking to some fellow Westerners here. They wouldn't recognize that we live in luxury, especially compared to the locals. This is a pleasant town, but it still is Latin America. If the you-know-what hits the fan, we will be escorted out of here with such care, you'd think we were fragile little snowflakes.
Ah I was wondering what the rub was. Drug charges, because marriage is an immediate forgiveness of an overstay no matter how long. Naughty boy. I wonder if he can now go through the consular process or is that up in smoke - ba dum. Lol.
OT: Your name makes you sound like a DC comics super hero or super villain. IRL, you're a superhero to me. Love your writing (and your "righting").
Sadly, the news media is engaged in a shouting match where the loudest, most repeated and last voice holds sway regardless of its veracity or lack of it. So, please do keep repeating the debunking (and doing it so effectively). I think it's what Reagan would do.
So, not a brown guy?